The Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, has announced a new package of measures worth $42 billion to stimulate the economy.
At a press conference in Canberra, Rudd announced a series of direct payments to individuals and families, coupled with a program of infrastructure funding for housing and schools.
- Listen to Rudd’s press conference:
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Why are there no payments listed in the package for pensioners do you think the pittence you gave in the last package would keep us quiet while you run the country into the red? You need to think about increacing the dissabillity and careres pention by at least 50% instead of offering scraps every 12 montrhs or so.I hear people crying over how hard it is to live on $700-$800 per week they should try living on half of that per fortnight.
I say look after the ones realy suffering and leave the so call low income earners to look after them selves for a while.
Barry Fennell your a tosser I dont disagree with the fact that pensioners should get something but i think people on high incomes 70000+ should not get anything
I am on a low income as a single parent its not easy so why shouyld they double your money and take it away from the kids ?
I didnt say take it from the kids there should be more for day care ect so people with kids can afford to work without spending half there income on day care but i feel it should be limited to single parents but not those that have 3 kids by 3 different fathers all they deserve is a free pack of condoms.
as for me being a tosser thats your opinyon and your entitaled to it.
Why the hell shouldn’t people on higher incomes receive something? I’m sorry that you are a single parent, working in your own way looking after your child, but why shouldn’t people working hard get given a little something for their efforts once in a while?? For crying out loud!!
Why should people on a pension get EVERYTHING given to them, and us other idiots struggling with work commitments and balancing everything else get NOTHING?
My partner has owned a small business for 3 yrs and during the last 3 yrs I also put myself through uni and worked. Hard.
So I’m sorry for the struggle someone with several kids may endure, but kids are your choice. I agree with Barry. Get some condoms. Don’t EXPECT handouts are due to people like you alone and not others for once.
I agree with Wendy and further to her comments half the bloody people on disability allowances and disiability pensions, are self inflicted drug addicts who have caused a mental disability. I feel sorry for the people who do deserve more finacial support with their (real) disability. But until we address the loser drop outs that clog up the system, give some thing back to those who work!
And on the note of child allowances, people should not be procreating for small cash handouts!! to they can buy plasma screens, playstations and more ciggys!
Reading the above comments on who is entitled and who is not entitled to payments really saddens me. Instead of pointing the finger at certain social groups, maybe we could all do our bit by giving constructive ideas. I agree that people who are wroughting the system in any way at all, should not be given anything. They should take responsibility for their actions. I have been on welfare benefits and lived on a higher income and I can tell you that both have pros and cons. On one hand, being on benefits gives you allowances for pharmaceutical goods, transport, phone, rates ect. On the higher income, you pay full price for everything and the amount of tax paid is phenomenal. I am not complaining because if you are wise, you can budget and live well. Certainly, the pension does not involve luxuries by any means but I know people who gamble, smoke, drink and put themselves into alot of debt due to life habits. Should the rest of us have to pay for those people? Whether you are low, middle or high income if you work hard for your money, why not have some fun every now and then?
Why is there no benefits to younger people who earn under 40k a year as a couple? This is when both are working fulltime and studying. We still have to pay just like everyone else except we miss out on all the luxuries in life. And I dont believe anyone should be given any money from the government for have children, you created them so you pay for them! And it doesnt help that these so called ‘mothers’ dont even spend these bonuses on their children when a jewellery sales person stated that a woman had 8 kids so she got 8k and spent it all on jewellery. Now thats just plain rubbish!!! Give us hard workers a fair go for once.
We agree with Wendy and Pete. My partner and I both work fulltime and operate 2 businesses just to survive. We don’t have any luxuries or children and the amount of tax paid to assist in supporting these HANDOUTS / STIMULUS PACKAGES is ridiculous. We get nothing!!! (but again it feels like a kick in the teeth) we thought being Aussie means get in give it a go and work ya guts out…. why aren’t more folk workin there guts out. We are sick of hearing how business owners get knob jockies turning up for job interviews or trials etc and don’t really want the job… “The job networks said I have to or my money stopped….that’s if they even turn up anyway. There shouldn’t be payments for people who just don’t want to work because the bludgers all live in communal housing and can have luxuries on the dole… “How do people on the dole go overseas anyway” I’ve worked for 16 years now and I haven’t had a real holiday or been overseas. Sorry I’m ranting and could continue for days… and we understand the above doesn’t apply to the overall population instead a gross generalisation but I’m sure anyone reading this could understand if you’ve been in our space. Ps. even if it was being handed out I don’t think we’d take it. but would be nice to be considered.!!
Believe it or not but i have missed out on who gets what in this so called stimulus. I work fulltime and will commence part time study this yr at uni. I earn roughly 42k per year? Im not fussed if i do or not. Just curious does any one know????
I think to a ceratin degree we all need help at some point, but only if we are truly helping ourselfs first, like mikey i know this might offend some people but it really annoys me how pensioners think they deserve to be fully supported for bloody decades…. I have to put money away for retirement..thats if i can ever afford to retire! single parents live off only a little bit more than the pension and they have children to feed, clothe put through school and so on. everyone needs help but that doesn’t nessasarily mean you deserve it. My grandparents are almost eighty and still work one of them full time. Unless you are disabled or are unable to work and i don’t care how old u are get a job and contribue!
Instead of giving people money to spend on anything they want, it could be given as food vouchers or something similar. Everyone needs food, fuel, electricity etc. I havent met anyone yet that doesn’t need to eat. That way at least everyone knows it is going to something useful. It could also be used to give people (that are capable of work) a job instead of cash, why can’t people who don’t have a job be paid to clean streets, do jobs for the elderly etc. just a thought
Personally I think the Rudd Government is a complete joke! And I ask how many of these people who are whinging about who is getting what actually voted this party in!! Everything is realative and we all make our own choices in life. I am married with a very young baby, and am looking at returning back into the workforce, why because like anything I have a mortgage, overheads every day living expences, no longer is it reality that Mum/Dad stays at home with the kids until they are school age and if they can well obviously this is better for the children, but realistically in this day and age it’s not possible for a lot of people. Good Luck to those who can. I am sick and tired of people say oh poor me, this and that. What about those who have terminal illnesses do hear them whinging about money no, they are thankful that every day they are alive. My late Grandmother had cancer and not once did she ever whine about why me, she lived every day with a smile on her face and god know how much pain she was in, but you’d never know it. Yes she was a pensioner and she didn’t have all the luxuries but when my father had to Execute the Will the family was so amazed that a pensioner woman had so much money saved away for her family when she lived off nothing and was so happy.
personally i think the No Condom attacks are a bit much wake up to your self you can’t get your self caught on the fact that income earners over 70k need money trust me the percentages show the facts struggling families need to cash more you say that you went to uni Pete , good for you mate not every one is able to go to uni and all that jazz seriosly wake up to your self and wendy the single mum must be hard growing up i know wot it is like well sort of my mum riased my brother and I working two jobs and she still found time to take us to soccer training so you have earnt yours i dont care what anyone says…
charlie I am sorry to hear about your grandmother i really am but you can’t realy say your sick of everyone whingin champ what are you doing now on here the same thing hyprocrisy is a powerful thing
sandra makes a good point with the food and or money for other living expenses I have talked to alot of people and they have said they will buy a new Tv and stuff which i think is rediculous , but overall more people said they will use it to get them selves out of Debt weather it be mortgage or what ever . It all helps in one way or another
Ruddy might not be everyones favourite but for the vast percantage of the nation he is doing the right thing I bet most of you dont even think about this stuff until you see it on the news or soemthing like that
If i was to have my opinion I would say yes ruddy is doing the right thing of coarse not everyone gets a hand out I dont but ahwell what can a 19 yr old do though who earns 4k and struggles but you tell me ,
I also beleive that some people dont try and put themselves out there for employment im trying im sure you are all doing your best I just hope everyone finds an answer you will
i want malcom turnbull to live on a low wage and battle for once
Jo-anne obviously you are very stupid or don’t know to much about malcom Turnbull, having that he grew up in a single parent home, put himself through university and has been very successful……I am very sure he knows what it’s like to battle sweetheart!!
Instead of everyone moaning about this person should or shouldn’t get whatever, where in the world can we find out who can get what? The bill isn’t even passed yet.
At the end of the day, if you get some money be happy that you got something and please put it to good use – you are the one that will have to deal with the consequences of your own actions. If you get nothing, you are no worse off than you were before.
I’ll tell you this though, I never got the original $1000 stimulus money and I am sure that by tax time when I will be eligible for it there will be no money there anyway. It was money I never had and money I don’t count on getting.
Everyone struggles everyday, rich, poor, young, old, single or married, with kids or without. Why get upset over something that isn’t even guarenteed?
why does everyone one have a go at bludgers every one has a right to make a chioce. You can go out to work every day I dont moan about you. If the goverment give me money to go surfing dont moan about me. pop down your local dole office
sign on yourselfs and get money for nothing !!
Hi I’m just curious that do students on youth allowance receive this payment?
At the moment I’m living alone and in year 12 studies this year, I do not receive any funding other than my youth allowance, my fortnightly payments are just enough for me to pay my school fees and 2 tutors, I just thought that I’d get the chance to reward myself a bit with this payment.
If someone finds out could you please let me know at cutiegal.85@gmail.com
Thanks
lucy i am not sure i think it’s tax payers onli earning under 80k or something like that so if u pay tax than yeah you should
pauline you go girl
but i think it’s just a way to blow off some steam to have a whinge i do it all the time it works
hey dave who cares about malcolm turnball your stupid for knowing that
jo anne i would like him to aswell but it’l never happen once ur in politics thats it your made think johny howards pension is around the 300k mark so hell be fine
This is targeted at BARRY who left the first and third comments. That is such a discusting way of treating single mothers. Saying that they should buy condoms because they have kids to different fathers. It is so hard for a woman through pregnancy, and then having to care for their children for the next 18 years. But yet so easy for a man to leave a woman while she’s pregnant, or after. Single mothers do a darn hard job every day every minute of every year. They also can manage the house work, the kids, working for their income and still manage to find time for other people. So the Government handouts will be much appreciated by parents. The farmers also get a great deal, so do our schools. This package will help boost the economy enormously. Hopefully people like you BARRY will show some maturity in future. Good on you Labor.
Referring to the comment left by Kerry, Where she said most people on centrelink benefits gamble, drink etc… How would you know that, i know people who receive carers payment for there children because of a physical and intellectual disability. There time is spent caring for there child 24/7. No breaks. This child suffers from severe epilepsy. Every dollar they have got from the Government has gone towards equipment and medical billd for there child. Special modifications to there house for the safety of there child, and there every day living expences. Did you know that more working people then people on welfare are the ones who feed the poker machines hundreds of dollars every day. I work at my local club behind the bar, most people who i see gambling are working people, with families. They waste a damn lot of money, and why, because they have so much and are to stupid to know what to do with it, also greed, they put there already high income through the pokies to make even more money. So get off people’s backs that are struggling and open your mind to the posibility that they are genuine people in need. !
im wandering the same as Lucy, im not on youth allowance but im 18, have been working full time the last year an about to start full time uni on part time work, am i entitled to the bonus?? seeing as im a tax payer right? my annual is below 20k! would help ALOT
From the sounds of things, university students who are ineligable for youth allowance get nothing unless they have “a net tax liability”. I think it is unfair that some students who earn more money will get the $950, whereas others who earn under the tax theshold get nothing. I am poorer than them, and i will be working full time once i graduate. If i was still in high school my parents would get it, but i miss out just because i am inbetween school and full time work because i am in full time study.
UNFAIR!!!
i think its ridiculous trying to solve the economic crisis by giving out cash. Stimulus package? people who are given money aren’t going to go out and stimulate the economy by buying goods and services, no they are going to pay off credit cards, mortgages etc especially struggling families and young couples. Plunging Australia in debt is just setting up the future for more problems. As someone else already suggested why doesn’t the government buy vouchers from business’ such as food, fuel, goods etc and give to people at least we know it’s be put to good use and instead of just giving money they’re stimulating business. A proper study needs to go into which target groups are literally about to go bankrupt so as those that can actually afford to eat, pay mortgages and other needs aren’t given money to spend on luxury items that aren’t needed. I am 18, on youth allowance, studing law this year with an income of about $12000 p/a and i am fine- i don’t need the governments hand out and i don’t want to be paying astronomical amounts of tax when i’m older to pay off 200 billion dollars of national debt.
Hi to all i am a single Pensioner who Public Housing i am up set with the fact is that kevin rudd is more interested in trying to make every one happy then really seeing what is happening write in from of him i got the last bonus of $1400 i tryed to sped it were it is need i bought carpet for my lounge room $250 freezer to Store food $250 New tyres $400 food good glouris food $300 and paid some extra payment of my power bill i live on $380 Per Fortnight becouse i live in public housing and i dont get rent assistance i would have loved another lump sum becouse my fridge has died and i would have bought a new one it up sets me that we did not get a extra payment but they dont want to listen i would like to see kevin live on what i do for 2mths pay electricty , rent , Power and running costs of my car and to those who say sell the car it works out cheaper then getting transport these days + food and Medication this is why i think it should have been worked out so every one can banifet from this $40 Bill thanks for reading my story
I am a single mother with three children, i think the comment made about giving single mums condoms is disgusting. What about the men who get to avoid being responsible parents why are’t they the ones targeted with such nasty comments. I have worked for years paid my taxes and now that i have three children and have to depend on centrelink benefits for the time being, its ok for ignorant people to have a go while others are struggling. my income has been cut down by a quarter since leaving work and i have 2 more children to somehow feed, house and clothe…Children should always come first in any country, i don’t smoke or drink have never taken drugs and always put my kids first…so if you think that all single mums are out there spending up any bonus payments they get on plasma tvs and jewellery think again some of us do care about keeping a roof over our childrens heads and making sure they have nutritional food in their stomachs. The extra money thats being put into public housing is hopefully going to be of benefit…anyone that knows the hell it is to rent out there at the moment can understand when you can’t find a decent rental under around 300pw these days…try feeding your 3 children paying your utilities, putting clothes on their backs buying formula and nappies for two babies for the remainding 300 pw then you might appreciate what a difference an additional $950 makes to the household.
Dear Ginny above you have no idea, bless you! The money is supposed to flow through the economy as a whole its like a big circle. For a crude example you buy new shoes at a shop, the shop worker keeps their job because the owner can afford to stay in business, they then pay the shop worker who then goes out and buys new clothes etc, and so it continues. If no one buys anything they dont have a business, therefore no jobs and so on it continues to filter through the economy. Your approach may only support that of a minority group of people ie. people who work for a privatised petrol or energy company (using your example), we already support them, we have to as you need fuel, power and other infrastructure etc. I do however have concerns that this money will filter extremely quickly through economy, and have very little affect except for that of the short term. The other outcome is maybe people re condition them selves to spend again and stop being so media scared, increasing local economic growth!! After all interest rates have never been lower for the home owner including me, who has a massive loan. Petrol is gone a bit ordinary again, but it was better than we have had it for a long while. Food prices are still a rip off (support your local farmer markets), so maybe out there where all just a bit scared. The media has a lot to answer for, plus the risk taking banks that made it all backfire on us.)
Midi as for your comments, im having a struggle decphering exactly what you are on?.. I mean on about. The one part I can make out I totaly agree with you and Sandra…. PLEASE CHANGE THE INCENTIVE TO VOUCHERS!!!
Pete, i understand what you mean but as you said this stimulus package will only work for short term as the last package did, so what will the government do then? just keep giving out money? Did you see the figures from the last stimulus package regarding gambling profits? it increased when all those people got that money!!! And people WILL pay off some of their personal debt which is only puttng money in big banks and corporations when really we should be focusing on helping smaller business’ who need it most so that it “flow(s) through the economy as a WHOLE”. That is why i suggested the vouchers so people that need it get their fair share. i only suggest that instead of giving away money there should at least be some exchange; for a “crude example”- government gives $1000 (give or take) to small business in exchange gives government vouchers for say 50% off price of goods who pass them on to community thus ensuring small business income and reduced price to consumer yet not giving “free” handout. small business can then advertise business and goods, keep employees AND not depend on bail out packages to ensure future. Sorry if i wasn’t fluent enough before but bless you I am only 18, and if i thought i had no idea i wouldn’t venture forth my opinion as i have self-respect and wouldn’t let myself look like a complete air head, idiot in front of others.
Hmm, I’m a uni student and i am entitled to this money… but i dont even need it, i make do with what i have, i think a lot of this money is dangerous to be flashed around.. it needs to go to money who really DO need it, and if not the money given to them, help and assistance instead, so that people can learn to help themselves.. I dont want to see the country crumble in a few years because we wasted all our money straight away…
give it to me,give it to me!!
Ok… i have read everything up until maybe the last 3 or 4 posts.. why dont you all stop complaining on a website and if u have beef with the whole thing then call up ruddy and take it up with him!!! what good will it do here?
I personally dont have ruddy’s home number but im sure if u get off ya tooshies and looked in the yellow pages… you could find it and call him up instead of having a big sook on the net!!
Hey Mr Rudd, thank you once again for your thoughtfulness. You have the hardest job in the world. We all Australians have a comment on the current crisis. Wish all would just stop complaining, you do a better job, bet you would not be able to.
Also stop having digs at pensioners, you never know when you just might need handouts. Our Prime Minister is actually doing the correct thing. If he was to give payements to the better off, they would not spend it, they would bank it, under different circumstances would be wise. Why? when we are in crisis we need to help each other at all costs. Where is the human spirit?
Stop worrying abount what you don’t have and be happy with what you do have. As in this country Australia we have and will remain to be lucky, don’t be so greedy,people. Think of all the women and babies dieing as we speak, they never complain and they will never have anything not even a home. anyways thanks you once again Mr Rudd you are a God send. May Good bless and keep you safe. Lisa
I agree fully with Lisa. Everyone should stop complaining.
I am a stay at home mum with a son who has diabities. I recieve the cares allowance. My partner brinhgs in 100K. I do not see a need of the carers allowance going to myself, every year for the past 3 years I have anominated it to go to a charity.
I say be grateful for what you have got.
Personally why doesn’t the government just keep it all and give it to the families who really need it at the moment, like the victims in Victoria who have absolutely nothing now, no home, lost family, wake up Australia pull together and stop being so selfish, most of the above comments are worthless they get you know where… to be honest I also think the elderly should be given more they have worked hard over their time… they aren’t here for that much longer so let them live a little.. they deserve it x
I’m sorry to say this, but I’m sick of people nagging about this handouts, I myself works full-time with my other-half pay tax in higher margin, have 6 kids and we don’t get anything at all. So what if there’s a handout, stop whinging and give someone a Go!!!! I’m not complaining at all, cause we know that people needs helps these days, so please it’s very UnAustralian, All you can hear, How people are rorting the Systems. Please just thanks God you’re still alive to enjoys everythings he has given us,I mean ALL OF US>>>>>
Just read WEndy february 4th, What a loser, I actually feel sorry for her kids.
Do you not see the suffering the pensioners are going through with never enough money to get through the week, I am an old age pensioner, and this lady was down right rude. Yes I know what you will be doing with your money
I work full time and support myself. I also study at uni part time. I dont earn enough to pay tax and therefore not eligible for a bonus. I dont understand how pensioners are so hard done by when people like me are not getting anything and pensioners get bonuses like the last.
this is to EMILY i am a pensioner we got one just one bonus that was told it was not a bonus it was a top up of our pensions witch we have been pushing to get a measly $30 per week rise i live on $250 per week and yea pay rent , electricty food and so on and i am studying part time to better my self becouse centrelink wont help me get of the pension i do not want to wish this on to any one i dont wont a bonus i just wont enough to servive on with out also using my family to pay for food to eat each week!!!!!
Kerry, I pay all the same expenses as you and i am not receiving any handouts from centrelink or the government so why should pensioners get this bonus and not people like me.
its idiots out there who criticize someone else like pensioners or single mothers ect just because their not getting it! shut up everyone having a whine about it be thankful our government can look after its country like this!! its not just a petty cash handout, its helping everyone out as these days it so ridiculously expensive for families, even without luxuries that everyone would love to have. and pensioners do deserve it, their on f**K all money just because their aged doesn’t mean they cant get the same benefits as a full time working 25 yrs old with 2 kids. they have paid their part to society. Mind you they wern’t as lucky as us are now back then! if i am entitled to it, then i will take it with a smile on my face as i then am apart of boosting the economy. i think that everyone who is getting it – good! go spend on anything u want! those who aren’t.. take it up with Rud and stop having a cry about it. i personally think that it should be reconsidered and allot of it go to helping those who have just lost their whole life and even loved ones in a matter of minutes in those horrible fires. but thats just my opinion.
I am a ex-soldier. I have received injuries during my service. I am not entitle to DVA (veterans’ Pension), due to i don’t meet the percentage required. I do receive a disability support pension. I can not work anymore due to injuries and medications which prevent my ability too. But, i am able to wake up everyday and be thankful for seeing another day. I was earning over $40,000 now receiving an entitlement (DSP from centerlink)$14,300 per year.
There are some low life’s out there, but also an overwhelming amount of people whom don’t know where to go in life and how.
My life and possession have drastically changed yes due to medical and financial reasons.
I receive a once a year $23 for telephone allowance, and a once a year $128 for utilities allowance. I pay $48 bi-monthly service fee (Admin fee) for gas, $288 per year. That alone you can see where the money goes. And yes that’s with the Centerlink concession given.
Persons earning 700-800 per week or even like over $40,000 should be entitle to a brake and something, also all of those single parents, and young people trying to study.
I believe Australia, when you sit down and look into it, right past all the day to day crap, to be the bigger brother to all in this land.
Until persons can look at their situation and say “I am doing fine, but my mate next door could do with a hand” will one or any of us see that maybe we don’t personally need this money.
I for one i am going to give my help to people that could do with training/study which can start business’s which will employ people. give my help to persons that could do with the luxury to have a full filling meal at night, a roof over their head. give my help to persons that can influence others in a positive manner. Yes, I see your view “WELL WHOM ARE THEY”. People on government allowances for one. But, let’s also have stronger restrictions. Food stamps for persons , join the army after 1 year with no job, work for local council, requirement to work free one day a week if not employed…. I am sure you can thing of more. We need to look after the weakest links before we can look after ourselves.
Person that have money in shares, investment property and alike. GET OVER IT!!!!! You knew it was a chance game. If it was 100% to always be there, s*@t everyone lets get stock….
Here is my 2 bucks,
If you are thinking of what you could do with this money, you DON’T F*#king need it. If you thinking whom could do with this money, do what i have done, write a letter to your local member and have your say, also i think you’re a person we all can look up too.
Final thoughts, yes it’s hard to work out where it goes, but, like a house make a blue print on what gets what and when. Remember just because you’re the bench top, you and your children won’t miss out but rather get something a little later. Just like one need to build from the foundations. Just the same as the foundations of this country’s future.
Write a letter to your local and federal member, tell them whom really need it and why.
I have read many of the comments on this site and can see some logic in a lot of them, but at the same time I see many insensed to the purpose of this handout.
The economy is failing and I expect that they are giving the money, not so much to those whom might benefit but to those who are most likely to spend.
And in a sense I think I see a method to the madness if we don’t have people spending then businesses close down. Businesses close down then the competion drops that will create certain monopolies on many items and cause higher prices for everyone – not just welfare recipients.
I saw generic 24 cheese slices rise 40 cents in one week at my locol Coles.
The mind boggles.
Well put Joanne
Referring to Jennifer’s comments about my comments about people on Centrelink payments. I did not state that all people on Centrelink payments gamble, drink and smoke ect, I said that I know people who are on them and they drink, smoke and gamble. My point is that if you have habits that cause financial stress, the rest of us should not have to pay for it. Welfare payments are available to those who need them.I have been on the single parent’s pension myself because of an abusive marriage and was very grateful that we have such a system available. The people who look after those who are disabled are legends.There would be many who would end up in nursing homes/hospitals at a very early age if it wasn’t for these wonderful people. The work load is tremendous. They should get much more than what they get. I hope that those who need it get a big cut from the stimulus package and for those who do not need it, maybe a donation for those who have suffered with losses from the Victorian Bushfires.
hmmm are we forgeting that the package is to stimulate the economy?
Even if jack down the road decides to buy a plasma with the money, is he or is he not helping to stimulate the econmy?
I do think that some money from the package should be used for dental health.
Example: bottom right molar is needing a root canal which because i have hidden canals, will cost me $2’300. I don’t have that money so my only other choice is to have it pulled out BUT if i do that then the tooth directly above will get loose and likely fall out! So in effect i will be losing 2 teeth!
What shits me is that the only options is pay 2’300 for private endodontist or for free- get it pulled out and risk the others.
WHY CAN’T MEDICARE COVER SOME OF THE COSTS?
A dentist goes to the GP doctor and is covered by medicare. SOMETHINGS MISSING HERE!!
In regards to Barry Fennel’s comments, you are clearly uneducated and ungrateful, you do realise that in some countries you would get nothing or even less than you recieve now! you recieved over 1,000 dollars last time, and the majority of people that will benefit this time around, recieved nothing last time. be grateful you recieved money from the government to begin with instead of whinging that this time you will not benefit!
As for what you do recieve, we don’t know because you didn’t tell us, but im guessing it is enough to survive on, as you obviously have the internet and a computer.
And as for every single person on here, having a go at the people who will be spending the stimulus package money on T.V’s and Stereo’s, Jewelry Etc.
WAKE UP! the money is designed to boost jobs and the economy. If you choose to spend it on bills etc, thats great. But you are missing the point, this package was designed, so that people would take the money they recieve… And Spend It, whether that be on clothes, material items, or household goods, it is designed to be spent, so that the economy can be boosted, buisnesses stay open thus creating more jobs. PAY ATTENTION!
I hope that Youth Allowance get’s it this time?…!!! Last time we missed out not one red cent…and if we were to get nothing again we would be very disappointed!!!
Hi all- my two cents worth; Bio- im a 25 y/o male, 42k and part time studnet in building- I certainly understand the package is designed to stimulate business allowing the likes of us to keep our jobs; however it will flow quickly and be short term and this is because most of the cash spent from the package will flow through to international companie’s pockets; for example the profit of the company i work for flows through to the US. I would have liked the package to focus on supporting Australian business in the way of managed spending; food vouchers just as an example; however i can see how it is very tough to control spending, even on this site there are so many points of view of what people will do with the money. I’d hate to see a heap of LCD TVs bought with the major portion of the profit flowing through to China leaving us to pay off the debit through taxation… on the other side of the coin, China then can afford to buy our coal and exports and keep our miners in jobs.. and so the chain continues.
I rent my house, have very little in the way of belongings, however i dont feel i need a payout- I do understand single parents, pentioners and every other group of low income earners will desire this handout, however this payout will be very short lived as relief for individuals; it was not meant to be a ‘reward’ as ive seen the word used, for low income earners, it is designed to be spent so companies and individuals re-invest and regain their share and superanuation investments, in tern people can go back to spending normally in their local communities. my final view- its just like cheating in a game of monopoly… let things take their course- they got through it in the 80′s and we’ll do it again- we just love to spend what we cant afford…
Do not tell me that you ‘deserve’ to recieve a handout from a government paid for by my money with my taxes. You ‘deserve’ what you work for, you earn what you’ve worked for.
Do not tell me that you ‘need’ to recieve a handout from a government paid for by my money with my taxes. You ‘need’ food, water, and shelter. Those can be found in the bush, everything else is earned by contributing to an economy not by crying ‘inequality.’
Admit it to yourself that in the end, you ‘want’ to recieve a handout from a government paid for by my money with my taxes.
Jerm feb 16 – Its not your money its the governments, once it is out of your pocket it no longer belongs to you, thats just silly – Most people who receive benifits from the government have also worked at some stage in their life and also pay taxes. I work part time my partner works full time on a low income due to him doing a traineeship and we also get help from the government for childcare for our 2 yr old. We pay taxes and we also receive benifits.
The government has decided on the stimulus package for a reason, to stimulate the economy, so dont get angry with people who are eligable for it.
And i’ll admit it i do want to receive the stimulus package as it will take a bit of stress out of our financial struggles, and if your claiming that your paying it too me then cheers, much appreciated mate
I agree with Sandra. Vouchers for food/fuel etc. is a very good idea. It would stop alot of the handouts going into pokies instead of children’s mouths. As a single parent working and studying I appreciate the help but do agree that old age pensioners could do with a little more in their payment each fortnight.
The stimulus package will not hold off the recession as predicted by the labor government, dont let us forget that throughout history it is this government that has driven us into recession. The stimulus package has not been carefully evaluated or planned simply handing out money to certain societal classes on the basis that it will aid in kick starting the economy to a degree is naive to say the least. As a student myself I know to well of the hardships of studying and working however as Kerry and Sandra said rightly so it should be given in vouchers to make sure where the money is being spent. Idealistically vouchers for retail, staple foods, books, electronics and other house hold means. Otherwise a vast majority of money will be spent on alcohol and the gambling corporations of society, wasting good tax payer dollars.
Why give pensioners bonus’ when they are only going to gamble it, drink it or smoke it!
I agree with Emily. What else do pensiors want they get their fortnightly handouts, their bonus’ (pension bonus schemes) and still putting their hand out for more. How is it our fault if the old farts didnt save any money for retirement!
Most age pensioners have work their whole life and paid their tax so let them be. My parents are aged pensioners and neither of them drink, smoke or gamble.
The current package doesnt include pensioners anyway.
Its the younger ones who have hardly worked a day of their life and bludge off the government thats who you should be worried about.
Why should pensioners keep getting bonuses, they are already bludging off the government anyway…. what about the self funded retirees that have saved all their life so they didn’t have to rely on the pension only to lose it on the share market? They are not getting a cent, and didn’t in the last one either!
What have the pensioners done with the money from their working years?
if you earn over 60k a year why are you winging about a measly 950 bucks, get over yourself and keep paying your taxes so me and my 3 children can enjoy our foxtel and air conditioned house all day, thanks,
oh and I worked for 7 years before i had kids so in those 7 years I paid tax, so I have paid my debt to society now its time it repays me,
Well, I am deeply offended by some of the comments made about single parents on benefits & Pensioners. I am not a single mum by choice, it was by necessity. It was either that or sit back & watch my son get beaten up by his dad. Nice choice yeah! Some of us are in this situation because that’s what life has thrown us.
MY ‘Handout’, as it has been called, doesn’t cover all my expenses to just live. My son & i have high medical expenses, due to medical conditions that we DIDN’T choose to have. I have just had to sell my house, so that I can afford to give my son all he needs. This package will help me to pay for an MRI that my son needs to have & that’s just for starters. I don’t receive any carer allowances for my son. Nor do i want to go on disability pension for my medical conditions,I don’t want a bar of it. Even though i keep getting knocked back for jobs because of them.
So, you folk who wish to critisize & judge us single parents on benefits, need to get off your high & mighty horses & quit pretending that you know everything & making judgements about situations you know nothing about. Put yourself in our shoes.
why the hell is ther enothing int her efor diasibilty pensioners over the age of 19 thats just ridiculouse and pathetic im on a disibilty pension and im expected to live on 540 a fortnight the rent is 320 pw the rent the food electricity and absolutly every thing is going up and and were expected to what live of scrpas and live int he gutter i know im voting kevin rudd out this year he is a loser and a pthetic wasit of time infatc they all are its bull crap that only under 19s on the dsp get the 950 what about the rest of us that need the money too its total rubbish and its a total waist of time i cant beleive we get nothing if were over 19 how the heck are we ment to survive on our crappy waige they give us KEVIN RUDD UR A IDIOT AND NEED TO SEE WHO REALY NEEDS THE MONEY AND WHO DOESNT U HAVE LOST MY VOTE U CLOWN
why do majority of you have to be either greedy or not appreciate the package???? im a single mum of 2 lil girls and i think every single mum should get the package no matter what!1 its not being greedy or selfish its us wanting more for our kids, if we dont have kids then 1 day there wont be an AUSTRALIA nymore so we r doin good…except for those ones who take it for granted!!! Honest hard workers should receive as much as we do but also just coz ur on a pension/disability doesnt mean u should get more or less.. we all want more not less so whats the big problem…shut up n be grateful 4 what ur getn in da 1st place…kids deserve money they dont come with ATM on them so yeah my hand is up for a ny hand outs!!! AS 4 THE CONDOM REMARK U NEED 2 GET A LIFE N GROW UP WE R PUT HERE 2 MAKE BABIES N WE GO THROUGH SOOO MUCH BEIN PREGAZ N RAISING THEM FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES SO YEAH WHY THE HELL SHOULDNT WE GET ALL WE CAN?? WE BLOODY DESERVE IT IF NYTHING MORE THEN WAT U DO!!!
your all just a bunch of morons who gives a rats what you have to say… If your on the dole or just to lazy to get off your a$$ or if your a single parent and under the age of 25 then be quiet you just had one too many drinks and put yourself out there for any man to take advantage of and i think you should get less than anyone. keep your legs shut for crying out loud and grow up a bit!
Jonah…….your dead right… all the dingey low lives of the world always think that someone owes them something, it was never their fault. in the 21st century its like having pets, if you can afford them. dont have them. its not fair to anyone. keep your legs closed you slappas and you wont have this problem, just because you a gullable person and believed what old mate had to say…thats no excuse…rudd should so something beneficial like introducing low interest loans, rather than funding the drug habits of our lower society for another week…..
peace.
carolyn…thats your fault your making shit judgement when you kept the baby to that cunt..
Spot on Sven well said… It’s just funding those poor low lives with another hit for a week… Nobody with a known drug addiction should be recieving anything… And for all those girls out there that are thinking “aww I will just open my legs and let him slip it in cause he said his ready to have kids and im just horny so i can’t just stick to a vibrating rubber” then the next thing you know *BAM* you are sitting on the toilet and a baby falls out and u think “wow now i can get a big baby bonus and bludge more money from taxpayers” How about get a job, get married, get your sh!t together then open your legs… What is the world coming to these days… Either that or just become a prostitute so u can sex all you want and pay for all your addictions. Cheers!
Haha you guys are funny, beacause if you had any idea in those thick heads of yours, you would know that a baby bonus or a cash payment once in a while covers next to nothing when it comes to a child. You have no idea of the situations these single parents face or the stress of not knowing how they are going to pay the bills or put food on the table and 90% had no intention of ever being a single parent. So how about you give them a break, not all single parents gamble or smoke or drink, and as hard as this may be to believe there is a hell of a lot of families that do spend these bonuses on their children.
Many people who are on disability pension do want to work. I am on disability and i am 26. I have never taken drugs. Every year I need to spend approx a month in the hospital in patient and on top of that I need to go the hosptial 3 times a week.
I am getting $560 per fortnight, that might sound alot to many people. But with high cost of rent in NSW, $200 per fortnight, and the failing mental health system, to avoiding wating months seeing a specialist. I have to pay gap fee approx $80 a fortnight to see doctors and medication.
How much do i have left?
If you are on Youth allowance or Austudy or newstart, you are lucky coz you have choices, you have the abilities to work and earn $$$ and don’t need to pay any medical expenses.
Well, excuse me Sven!!!! How dare you!! If i had known my husband was abusive i would never have married him or had his kid. He became violent after having my son. You are a typical know it all. Think you know the facts & u don’t know squat. Get your facts straight before you go mouthing off with such foul comments.
I don’t know how this topic got from allocating government funds to abusive relationships but the fact is you’re all bickering like a bunch of children. Everyone in this thread has made a very valid points, parents needing more, the working class deserving a break, the people at the very bottom not getting enough.
THESE ARE ALL VALID, BUT DON’T YOU THINK THAT ALL THIS HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH SEVERAL WEEKS IF NOT MONTHS OF TEDIOUS, MONOTONOUS SQUABBLING IN THE PARLIAMENT???
Do you really think that any of these issues were not addressing in the formation of this bill+stimulus?
Come on, I’m a 19 year old student and even I can tell that the elects representing us would have figured out all these points and spent hours shouting over the top of each other and arguing trying to get the best for the community and public.
This is more of a fact/case of people not caring that they’re are getting something for nothing, but arguing who is getting a bigger share of the pie.
I’m thankful for any kind of help I can get as I’ve been very hard done by in my life so far and have managed to sustain and support myself since the age of 15.
Really people, if you’re that worried about how much someone else is getting when you’re getting something for nothing, then the words I’d probably come up with would be greed and acquisitiveness.
I don’t fully support Rudd, I preferred Howard but that’s neither here nor there. He’s elected and he’s helping the country. What’s wrong with that? Get over this stupid childish fighting.
I think in some ways many of you have not grown up and I really do not look forward to getting older if this is how people act towards each other.
-Corey Mitchell.
While researching whether or not carers receive the bonus payment announced in the Federal Budget 2009 Stimulus package I happen to stumble across this current chat site pertaining to my question as described above. And what overwhelming discussions have been taking place on the issue, and not to my surprise I read some quality affirmations made by our Aussie mates sitting somewhere with the net on hand abusing single parent mothers who need government support. (obviously was dropped on the head at birth)
Wake up Australian people we don’t have to slip into the gutter in order to put our message across, the Sven person needs to aim for getting himself a descent education…
However I am disappointed that the 2009 stimulus package refrained to include all pensioners and every other center link payment receiver. Power to the people and learn about the New World Order.
Jonah…dear…You remind me of my ex-husband…a natural, two-legged contraceptive.
I am a single mother and a low income worker, once married to a dick-wad like you. I left him and derived great pleasure in not taking child support, simply so my children did not have to be embarrassed by his existence.
Hearing blokes like you talk always reminds me of why I enjoy being single. Keep up the good work boy…ya made my day. To the single mothers and single-income who get a little help from Ruddy..enjoy it, you deserve it!
I work a few different jobs but earn very little, have a child with support needs (at uni), and another still in high school. I don’t qualify the single income bonus because my kids (despite being dependents) are on Youth allowance. At least they will get some money for textbooks, shoes, new footy boots and school uniform that we actually cannot afford as a rule. They also plan on getting new tyres for our old car.
So thank Kevin. I certainly appreciate the help, as I am sure many nice, decent single mothers do.
Yes Jonah really needs to get a life and a new attitude.
its your choice not to accept child support from your ex hubby! if your that embarrassed and hes that much of a dick wad maybe you should have considered that before having kids with him. your a bloody hypocrite. your one of those people that do nothing but complain about there situation but you need to have a good look at why your there in the first place.
if your not bringing your kids into a secure stable home then you shouldnt be having them. and if you do have them then face the consequences and stop bloody complaining. im 23 and been with my partner 5 years and guess what… no kids. theres no excuses in this day and age….
Corey Mitchell I totally agree with you. I’m a 22 year old full time university student who unfortunately had to give up my permanent part time job in retail to attend my second degree. This has left me a little bereft but it’s a life choice and I am young and jobs will become more readily available. Until then this stimulus package is a blessing for those willing to appreciate the delicatness of the situation.
This is government people, they don’t just show up to work one day and say ‘Hey, let’s give all these people money and leave everyone else hanging’. Careful fact collecting and case studies are reviewed, reviewed and reviewed again and in the end a bill is created and put to a vote with not only the best interest of the people in mind but the best interest of the country!
I was lucky to be eligible for anything but I am a low income earner, living on the basics, now unemployed at full time study and trying to secure myself a rental property at a cheaper rate than I am currently paying now, so yes I have gripes, but I’m not about to weasel and whine about those who are getting two payments or those who own businesses or work for 80K a year, that’s your choice in life and this is mine.
If you can’t be happy with helping your own country than you don’t have the right to be called an Australian. It’s hard, but guess what…that’s life. Be grateful anyone’s giving you anything at all.
Allyse
Thanks allyse, atleast 1 person has their head screwed on.
I don’t think people even read the full way through, they get to something that makes them annoyed then scroll straight to the bottom to abuse the person who made the comment.
“Until then this stimulus packages is a blessing for those willing to appreciate the delicatness of the sitaution.”
aahhh…the world makes sense again.
You guys all sound like a bunch of typical Australian red-necks. Especially Pete, Wendy, Mick and Barry. I bet all you have to do in your spare time is whinge and blame single parents, people with disability, aged people and immigrants for all your life and the world’s problems. “If only there were more people like me!” I can hear you thinking to yourselves. It is unfortunate that everyone wasn’t born in the same priveledged position you guys obviously were. A little human compassion for others never goes astray, maybe you should try it sometime!
Does anyone out there know if your parents take all your youth allowence, if you are still entitled to the stimulous package with your name on it? I JUST WANT MY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the biggest joke of a stimulus package I have ever seen. I am not eligible for youth allowance because I live at home. mum feeds me and that is all, I can only work for 15 hours a week, that pays for clothes and petrol. working this much doesnt put me over the tax barrier, therefore I get nothing. students are the ones that are getting left out WAKE UP
Im a full tiem Carer of my mum. And im only 18. ive been doing it for 4 years and im sorry but it is hard to live on $564 a fortnight, with the rate of petrol and food, after all the bills [ which im usually paying off] i have about $200 for food a FORTNIGHT for the 2 of us? thats $100 each week for 2 person? thats hopeless.
If they government did raise up the pensions i think we would spend a little more. at the end of each fortnight by the friday im left with about $20… sometimes i have nothing no food at all.
So i think the fact that he is handing out payments is great but he SHOULD raise the pension etc
Bloody Hell Mates,
This has gone too far
xxooxoxoox
P.S.
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Stop complaining about not being included in the package. You don’t get a payment if you did not lodge a tax return. Which you should have if you earnt an income in 08/09.
You also don’t get a payment if you are already on a benefit. I feel that anyone on a benefit is already getting far too much. Don’t you dare consider yourself to be an average struggling Australian. That title goes to the workers who pay exorbitant amounts of tax to satisfy the ‘needy’. Needy is the word… too needy in fact!!!
The really annoying part is I work to progress my career as well. The higher I go (after paying for myself to get through Uni, service a mortgage, start a business and work a professional full time position)the more I have to fork out to ensure the living standards of the ‘needy’. Students – go part time to pay and get jobs that pay you more. Parents – consideration for the future would be great before you go satisfying your immediate needs and then becoming a reliant burden on society. Get a grip!
However, as for pensioners. They do deserve some slack. More slack than the young parents on benefits. Majoritively pensioners were tax paying ozzies for the better part of 40+ years. Their tax built most of the infrastructure that we know, the laws that govern us and have kept our nation one of the strongest economically in the World. But we bag them for being too needy. They did not have programs for superannuation and retirement planning.
The only reason our government has been apprehensive about giving them too much is because we have an ageing society. If the pension is too large, it becomes overall too costly to maintain.
Enough said
My wife are pensioners and worked for over 50 years.Still together after 46 years of marriage.to a lot of people marriage3 means nothing,5 children.no baby bonuses then.We had children because we wanted them,and no family allowances .
I worked 2 jobs so we could survive .We had children ,we looked after them no day care.
I was never out of work and paid my taxes
we manage to live ok
I only retired because 50 years of working and always on my feet took their toll on my legs
couldn’t afford to have them fixed until I was in my 70s
We are happy the way we are as we have each other.There are others far worse of than we
Col
My wife and I have worked for over 50 years and paid taxes all our working lives. We also made as much provision for our own retirement as we were able to. However, on retiring at almost 70 our retirement funds were inadequate for even basic needs, so we receive a part pension. We both also have significant medical conditions which result in substantial out of pocket expenses not covered by Medicare or our private health insurance. These and other factors have meant our taxable income falls below the level at which we would pay tax. Because of this we have been denied any part of the Rudd stimulus package, which I believe to be heartless and discriminatory on the part of the government. No doubt there are many others in a similar position.
I am a single mother and I struggle constantly. My children only get xmas and birthday presents and nothing else. I buy my cloths from St.Vinnies and make all cakes etc instead of buying them and I even make my own washing liquid, its tough. I am not complaining I give the kids love and a good education.I just think some people realize, what a struggle it is to be on a low income.I appreciate anything from the government. But I am saddened, that not many have any idea what it like, I know many worse of than me.So what can we do nothing, just keep praying for a miracle week from week.I have learnt budgeting is the key but sometimes it doesnt always work. I am constantly behind it some bills and then I get charged the overdue too, oh well at least I try I cant do much els.
I for one spent my stimulis package on putting up a shed which i thought was what we were to do with the money that was given, i dont understand why so many are winging
I have found this thread so interesting. I appreciate that people find it hard to believe that people on $70k plus need a stimulus. Well, I reached $70k this year and I was ecstatic as it now means instead of surviving on $200 a week as I was previously (due to rent and student loan fees) I can now feel slightly more comfortable. It has taken me 5 years in employment to convince employers that I am worth this and I have worked so hard for it, for many many months it included 12 hour days at work..and even now it is not uncommon for me to work 12 hours a day to get my work done…proportion my salary over that many hours per day and I am on less then minimum salary as I expect many people on high salaries would be able to do.
My partner earns only $40k which pushes us above $100k but we still cannot afford to buy a house. We rent 5km from the city in order that we can ride to work and not have to buy a car.
We both got the stimulus payment of $900 and we spent it on a holiday to Central Australia. In fact the entire $1800 was spent on that holiday and therefore all of the money was retained in the Australian market and we did our job…our stimulus stimulated profits within Australia hopefully boosting the economy for the future.
I intend to stay at home when I start a family and certainly will not expect the government to pay when I do…they offer enough, i.e. a good healthcare system, cheap public transport and excellent facilities when trying to look for work.
Please everybody, don’t assume you are due a handout but be grateful for what you have, and if you feel bitterly towards something there must be an authority figure you can turn to for valid complaint…complaining on a forum is going to get you nowhere but it will certainly make you angrier about the situation!
Take care and enjoy life, whatever obstacles are thrown in your way.
This is to anyone who wrote a comment about ‘losers’ who ‘clog up the system’ or people who ‘only deserve a pack of free condoms’ and suchlike.
firstly, I am fourteen years old and I found this looking for information for a school project, so you should think about how easy it is for kids to access this stuff before you write it.
secondly, I may not know much yet and I may be young and possibly naive but please, LISTEN TO YOURSELVES!!! If tomorrow the world ends will your life have been any better than the ‘low-lives’ you judge? the single mother with three kids to three different fathers? or the boegans who don’t work for a living yet always expect things to just come their way? How are you any different to that?
what is worse, being those people who you despise or living every day smug in the thought that you are better than them? You judge them without once seeing them as human beings. You complain about the government but it never, ever occurs to you that they are people too, and people cannot please everybody? or that the people you think don’t ‘deserve’ free money because they either have too much or not enough, that they are human beings and they deserve respect, no matter what they have done?
Have you ever tried to think of others as people who make mistakes, who get scared sometimes and live their lives the best they can?
I’m talking about the sluts and boegans and snobs and idiots and drop outs etc. People who are despised. What makes you think that your better than them? That you have a shiny car or you have to get your hands dirty to get by? What does that really matter?
No matter where the money has gone, someone had to miss out and why shouldn’t that person have been you, rather than any other?
Maybe I haven’t seen enough of the world to judge these thing yet. But I would rather be young and starry-eyed than filled with hatred for people I don’t even know.
In an era of all rights and no responsibilities it is vital to keep track of whom you can blame.
No blame whatsoever can be attached to Kevin who, despite all the talk, never seems to do anything for which he can even remotely be blamed. He’s said sorry once and obviously has no intention of ever doing it again.
John Howard can be blamed for almost everything. He rejected the Tampa as a safe, reliable ferry service for asylum seekers, he didn’t leave Kevin and Wayne a big enough surplus to cover their debts and deficits and he cruelled the Liberal Party’s chances by ensuring the nearest Peter will ever come to the top job is Kevin.
Julia is a blameless jewel of a politician. It is interesting, however, that she grabbed all the work choices afforded her by John Howard’s departure but denied him the fulfilment of WorkChoices after he had departed.
Climate Change can be blamed on the Greens and Al Gore. If they hadn’t kept banging on about it no-one would have noticed and we would all have adapted seamlessly to summer holidays in Antarctica.
It seems churlish to blame Wayne for anything but he does seem to have run out of stimulus. He could try nasal delivery but that would only get up people’s noses.
You can blame Malcolm for over-blaming Kevin who blames Malcolm for blaming him instead of John Howard who blames them both.
George W is the most blameworthy person on the planet. In fact he’s such a popular target that his approval rating is on the rise. If Afghanistan and Iraq turn out well, climate change is found to be based on a fake email and Obama stuffs the U.S. economy to the point where George W can no longer be blamed, he could yet turn out to be the most popular president in U.S. history.
There’s no way Penny Wong should be blamed for the emissions trading scheme and it’s definitely not Kevin’s fault either. Nor should they be blamed for the fact it’s now known in opposition circles as ‘crap and frayed’.
The NSW Government claims it is manifestly unfair to blame them for so many things when most of its disasters are acts of God. But Kevin denies any responsibility.
The Australian federal and state governments constantly blame each other and who can blame them?
The Pope should attract no blame whatsoever for failing to confer a sainthood on Kevin during his recent visit. Most catholic scholars agreed with the decision to declare him a blessed nuisance instead.
Peter Garrett is absolutely blameless for the new uranium mine in South Australia because Kevin twisted his arm and what’s more it creates jobs for nuclear families. He does however bear some blame for the shortage of jobs in men’s hairdressing.
And if you’re missing out on a fair slice of the pie and only getting what’s left you can blame the ABC.
Let’s not squabble Australia – finger point…let’s laugh together at FridayMash.com
I am a single mother to two children. My eldest is special needs. Their father does not pay the amount of child support that he is meant to. In fact, I can’t recall ONE time that he has ever paid the full amount. My family tax benefit gets cut because they assume that he is paying the amount he is meant to.
I have been on the phone to csa and centrelink constantly. It’s a farce of epic proportions.
I don’t smoke, do drugs or own a plasma tv. My tv cost me $25 at a lions mart.My kids dont have a playstation, nintendo or xbox.
In fact, at the moment, I don’t even own a fridge.It blew up so now we are using an esky.
I have to pay for occupational therapists, I cant move my child away from the school that he is in, because of the stress it will put on him. I’m stuck paying half of what I get a fortnight on rent. I cant get anywhere cheaper, because there isn’t anything cheaper.
I try to get their father to realise it’s not just me he is shafting.. but his whole response is .. don’t look at me.. at least I give you some money.
I want to move to a lower rent area, but it will be detrimental to my eldest. So we are stuck here, barely scraping by.
So enjoy the money you are quibbling over, holidays and crap sure must be nice.. we have never been on one.
Not every single parent is a loser and dropkick. You just have to make do with what you’ve got. So suck it up and get on with things. People have it hard all over the world.. a lot have it a hell of a lot harder than all of us. So be grateful, you selfish, selfish morons.
i hear you christine i am in the same boat my child has a muscular disease so doctors after doctors more money to pay out but he never complains his only 10 but lives each day as it comes in pain. i hope all gets better for you in time but hey us single mums do great i reakon we ain’t all bad like you said but the bad ones make poeple look down on us
also i would like to make a comment to do with you all puttin single mothers down we don’t all intend to be single you know i was engaged when i fell but the coward ran a mile but i ain’t complaining as my kid is my life. so its the men that are the low lifes that run from committment so wake up and smell the coffee we ain’t all on drugs or drunk. all my bonus went to my kids not one bit on myself
I agree there are a lot of people on the dole who are bludgers, alcoholics, addicts etc. However please remeber that not all people on the dole are these things but simply doing it hard, have every intention to work if they ever get the chance and need all the help they can get. Why should these people suffer and miss out purely because a small percentage of unemployed people are just bludgers who abuse the system. Thats why this topic is so trick because how do we decide who are the honest ones and who are the bludgers plus even if we were able to pinpoint that there would simply be no way to justify designated payments. Pensioners most definitely need and deserve more. Most importantly don’t be fooled by this whole stimulus package nonsense, its purpose isn’t to help us the people but purely to help ruddys precious economy so hes got a stroger leg to stand o in parliment but the gov will dress it up to look like its desgned to help us haha please do u really thik we are that stupid ruddy.